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How composer Ben Frost creates dream-like sound design. Fans of Netflix's twisty time travel series Dark will be happy (although perhaps not surprised) to hear that creators Baran bo Odar and Jantje Friese's followup, 1899, is a real mind-bender. For two or four weeks I was completely lost to the world.. We always approached it as a global show, but we never, never, never expected that kind of success.. Odar says there were two reasons why they opted to use this new technology, which has been used previously on shows such as Disney+'s The Mandalorian. Get The Latest IndieWire Alerts And Newsletters Delivered Directly To Your Inbox. What resonates with a lot of viewers is this feeling that we also sometimes have: do we matter? To be honest, we had them all in these pods; they couldnt move. Michael (Sebastian Rudolph) is Michael. We spoke to Dark co-creators Baran bo Odar and Jantje Friese about saying farewell to the series, the spiritual and mythological influences they crammed into the third season's eight episodes,. Hopefully it feels like something really fresh and new, while still [being] exactly what Dark fans would like to watch." . The passengers of the Kerberos encounter the biggest mystery of their lives. In terms of diversity, thats actually really one big thing that when you have people crossbreeding through different timelines you really cant just throw in something because then otherwise you would kind of know whos is whose child, said Friese. And as we go through the process, the ideas can shift and move into a different position. The season weaves together not only five or six different time periods, but also a second version of those time periods, and goes back even further in time and more years along the way. Friese: I dont know. "I would say culturally, there's a lot of difference between German Europe and India. Jantje Friese: We wanted to introduce the parallel world in the second season. We have the 'triquetra' and stuff like that [a three-pointed knot shape from the Iron Age that was adapted to represent the Christian Trinity]. The quote in the song from Emily Dickinsons poem, in the beginning, is really about experiencing all this weird shit going through your brain. That, for us, is a metaphor. I went back three days after the end of shooting because I was really not feeling well, to be honest. And because of that tone, you understand how the whole sentence is meant. It was really challenging for us in the third season to establish another world with maybe even other timelines, too. bo Odar: We always think any piece of pop culture should be a reference to some other element of pop culture. That [story] was already during development for Season 1. "Slowly you build your own mythology and set of rules. It's Me, Margaret' to 'R.M.N. The idea of the three worlds is constantly shown in the second season, through the picture in the book young Elisabeth is reading. For Louis, being on set and shes entering the room with his jacket, the first reaction was like, Give me back my jacket! They have something almost like emoticons at the end of every sentence, in order to understand how that sentence is meant. Its over, Odar said. You're crossing into a new century, stepping from something that feels old school to something new the future. 1899 Cast: Set Sail for Multilingual Mystery, 1899 Poster Hints at Series Big Mystery, All Aboard: The Mysterious 1899 Trailer Is Here, The 1899 Teaser Will Rock the Boat and Your World, 1899 Star Andreas Pietschmann Reveals the Series Visionary Stage Tech, How Emily Beecham Untangled the Mystery of 1899, How Composer Ben Frost Conjured the 1899 Score in the Belly of an Actual Ship, The Opening Sequence of 1899 Charts a Course for Mystery, New Thriller 1899 Sets Sail in November, So, What *Did* Tully Do to Kate? Hannah reveals shes thinking about Jonas as a name for her unborn child. Was it always your intention to introduce multiple worlds from the outset? I just felt that was such a multilayered story. There are different sections in there in the beginning, I just put Post-its in so I can still rip them out again. Can we change anything? "We've dedicated our past years to deciphering human behavior and trying to find out why people also do very bad things. As for fans of. Sign up for our Email Newsletters here. We already have ideas for a second and third season on 1899, and it gets complicated. I think you have to watch carefully, because every little piece means something. "Because there are so many layers of science philosophy and metaphysics and spiritual stuff, and it was quite interesting to see that they are all actually talking about the same thing, just from different angles. Its been quite a process getting to here. For answers to those questions and more, The Hollywood Reporter turned to Odar and Friese for a closer look at the final season of Dark. It's really bad. This Article is related to: Television and tagged Dark, Jantje Friese, Netflix, TV Interviews. The following interview discusses Season 3 of the Netflix . But this is a big, new toy and not a lot of people have used it yet. Usually, the foreground is the actor and then the background is what you have on the LED volume screen. Thats how we appreciatedLost, and completely got lost in that mythology, Googling everything about these numbers and trying to find out what does it mean?. Its a new kind of thinking for filmmaking: You have to think in layers and how you combine those layers. We werent 100 percent convinced that we would get people [away] from the second screen and actually take the time and investment to watch whats going on. There are so many ideas and concepts out in the world, said Friese. Was that deliberate? That was the biggest structural issue: when do we reveal what? When you write, how do you plot things out? Friese: I completely agree. "To create worlds you need to create patterns, and the best way to create patterns is by using symbols," he said. John Mulaney's New Netflix Special Is a Critical Reminder About Celebrity Even 24 frames per second, creating motion from still frames, thats the first illusion you create as a filmmaker. "It's definitely an association that a lot of people have," Friese says. (Laughs.) Thats where character development goes. America So She Could Breastfeed Privately, Michael J. Never mind that in her own time, everyone including her son was facing a certain apocalypse. Some will in Episode 1 understand its a simulation. As you know with Dark, you dont have the straightforward narrative where you can go from one thing to the next. ' Odar said in a recent interview with IndieWire. All Rights Reserved. Odar:Every episode [when] someone wakes up, you hear almost like a computer voice. Sign Up: Stay on top of the latest breaking film and TV news! The series ends with a dinner party in the origin world. So I think its really fascinating because this is just the start. At first, you think everything is possible, but its not. Friese: When we started to research games, simulations, constructing virtual realities, [we learned] the way that content is created is that you use tetrahedron structures to basically build everything. At the same time, the refugee crisis was happening in Europe [around 2015/2016] and it was a very unstable phase. They always knew where it would go, but they recently watched the last episode in the cinema and they were like, oh my God!, Odar: We dont play with the audience and treat them as fools and idiots; rather, the opposite. So you didnt have to really change the way that youre shooting; you can do the shot and the reverse shot in one day, which was really helpful. Its not the kind of story that can be reworked and improvised on the fly with each passing group of episodes, as Friese can attest. Some said: Oh, it felt more at ease, like it was easier to comprehend. That was one of the cornerstones to developing the third season. Fortunately the similarities between some of the older and younger actors are so uncanny that often other clues arent necessary, and occasionally, some viewers are convinced that one actor has just been aged up using makeup and prosthetics such as in the case of Adult Ulrich (Oliver Masucci) and Elderly Ulrich (Winfried Glatzeder). Friese: We didnt want to copy exactly the way we structured things inDark. Why set it at the end of the 19th century? Thirty-three years, the number [if you flip the first three around] is, combined, an eight. One must watch it. So every riddle we put in there, we feel we have to solve it, she said. Is one powerful family to blame for the deaths of five people in the wilds of South Carolinas Lowcountry? Then, of course, just like in Dark, we have a big philosophical theme at the center of it all about perception and reality. Baran bo Odar: As we have so many different timelines and characters, we would figure out things like, if we use a certain color in this decade, we wont use it in another one. Baran bo Odar and Jantje Friese are pulling back the veil on their new puzzle box show. Sign up here for our weekly Streamail newsletter to get streaming recommendations delivered straight to your inbox. But those limitations are actually amazing, because its still a tool to create illusion. In Season 1, one of the biggest revelations once time travel is introduced is that teenager Jonas (Louis Hofmann) realizes that the young boy Mikkel (Daan Lennard Liebrenz) who disappears from Winden in 2019, has actually gone back in time to 1986 where he then met and eventually married Jonas mother. So its really that in going through the makeup process and trying to find out what you do with the hair and face. Do you feel you have said all there is to say about these characters and this world? So hopefully, ultimately, that is happening. But usually, its the theme that starts the whole process. We had old material that was actually a different story a couple of years back, she said. It was a very magical moment. When the crew decides to board the Prometheus, things take a horrific, and decidedly weird, turn. Robot, earned critical acclaim and three German movie awards, Netflix approached the duo to adapt the film into a series. bo Odar: We dont have bad ideas. I mean, we're always mixing genres, but the DNA is not per se a horror show.". Friese and Odar said that they were able to keep the raincoat, the St. Christopher necklace, and the recreation of the Rubens painting The Fall of the Damned thats the centerpiece of Adams Sic Mundus hall. Thats what triggered the process. Sign up for our Email Newsletters here. What we did is construct a turntable so that we can spin the set around in a few minutes. "I gave that to a couple of actors and they all had the same experience. Thats crazy because that like, usually you have to look for for nose [physiology] because thats the most [obvious] pointing thing.. I love that theres so much fan fiction out there. Friese also warned viewers from making assumptions about certain characters, such as Jonas mother Hannah (Maja Schne), who has done rather unforgivable, selfish, and malicious acts throughout every timeline. Wrapping up the Dark story next season hasnt been an easy process, even though filming is already underway. It was one of those pictures youre drawn to, where you immediately start asking questions: What did he do with that hammer? What kind of trigger words do you use? Baran bo Odar Definitely. Did the actors all know about the ending? Then one day, I told myself: Lets forget about what theyre saying and listen to how theyre saying it. Go Behind the Cutting-Edge Technology of 1899. We thought that was would be easier. In every season there is what I always call a bridge episode, because to me its like the bridge in a song Friese said. Get The Latest IndieWire Alerts And Newsletters Delivered Directly To Your Inbox. If seeing an entire reality flipped in the last season of Dark seemed jarring, know that it felt just as dissonant to the people helping to bring it to life. Jantje Friese and Baran bo Odar, who also created the streamer's hit 'Dark, are back with another meta mystery, this time set on a migrant steamer at the turn of 19th century. There was something fascinating about exactly that moment in time. All Rights Reserved. So where does the show go in Season 3? Is this a hopeful note in your mind? People write stories about the relationships between Aleksander and Regina, and stuff like that. Do you first have the themes and then drop in characters and develop the mystery out of that or do you have the puzzle first and then see how the characters and themes fit into that? You can change anything. It's all rooted in one core idea. We want to know where we are going. Its not every word but you learn how a language sounds and, especially if you do a lot of takes, you get really used to it. Im obsessed with history, seeing how everything is related to each other, seeing the reasons for things. Where does he come from? This is one of the first TV shows, afterThe Mandalorian, to use new LED Volume technology to create virtual sets. Odar:We mirrored the image in the camera. It was really fun. Thats not what we wanted. So I felt thats something to give.. I think thats really interesting. You can search, for example, for a character, and then you see the character arc, or you can search for a timeline and then you can see everything that's happening in that timeline.". "And it helped us see that we can trust our instincts, and there are people out there that are actually interested in our voice and what we have to say and how [we] tell stories.". But we stumbled upon a picture of a man in a white shirt covered in blood, with a hammer in his hand and a really weird look on his face, standing on top of what looked like an old boat. A lot went down between the lifelong friends like, a lot. Friese laughed and added, "'For a short moment in time, you visited a parallel world where you actually had success!'". They said the most complicated thing was actually the logistics, scheduling when you can shoot what, how to get sets in and out and the reverse shots, all those sorts of things. Season 2 ended with Jonas being whisked away to another world, possibly another dimension by a version of his now-dead girlfriend Martha (Lisa Vicari). "In every season there is what I always call a bridge. So that is like five pages of conversation between the writer, the translator, the language expert: Here should they say tu or vous? It became a really complicated process. ", Someone at Netflix mentioned the volume tech, and Odar and Friese were very impressed by how it looked. But also hard because you have to rethink how youre used to shooting stuff. . We said from the start that1899should not look likeTitanic. Although the show begins as the story of international immigrants on a steamship headed to America at the turn of the 20th century, by the end of the season we learn that the ship was a simulation, and our protagonists are actually on a spaceship in the year 2099. We put a dot, wait a little, and then we put a question mark at the end. We have to do this? But then they loved it, too. If you're ready, you can also read our series finale recap and explainer. And I dont want to spoil the meaning of that yet. Jantje Friese was born in 1977 in Marburg, Germany. Through three seasons of Dark very little made. And the rest is just virtual in it, even with digital extras, which we used for the first time, which they didn't on Mandalorian. It's a lot to keep track of, and a feat of brilliance that Odar and Friese have made it work so seamlessly, especially since the show never shies away from introducing the actual quantum theory behind parallel universes and God particles. The ultimate example of that is Season 2s epic revelation that police chief Charlottes (Karoline Eichhorn) mother is actually her daughter Elisabeth (Carlotta von Falkenhayn) through more time travel shenanigans. They would go, God damn it! Also, we actually thought about putting some of the stuff thats now in Season 3 into Season 2, but then decided to move it backwards. In the Eliott Sumner version we use in the title sequence, the line that features so prominently is feed your head. That was such an important phrase for the entire show that it felt like the absolute right fit. We already have so many timelines; revamping them for other timelines and then building them for the mirroring? This Article is related to: Television and tagged Baran bo Odar, Dark, Jantje Friese, Netflix. Thats the fun of it. This interview has been edited for length and clarity. Obviously, we were fighting for our own characters to to be heard, but then you just have to make choices.. But its not like what we thought: People didnt understandDark, so we have to make this one easier. I still think that young Katharina is related to Old Katharina now because they just look the same. "We do love challenges," Odar says with a laugh. There are a lot of symbols throughout, a lot of referencing systems in terms of religion, mythology.. "We always work with symbols and objects, and we always have usually one specific object that is tied to one character. Its both hopeful and ominous at the same time. Friese knows the reason for his injury and eye patch, but wouldnt reveal what happened. It takes 60 seconds to spin and its a huge turntable. ', John Mulaney's New Netflix Special Is a Critical Reminder About Celebrity, 2023 Emmys Predictions: Outstanding Lead Actor in a Limited Series or a Movie. A mysterious journey unfolds for a group of London migrs as they sail toward New York. By the end of Season 2, we're dealing with a number of different time periods spanning more than 100 years but we're also introduced, in the last seconds of the finale, to the possibility of an entirely new and potentially identical dimension. When it came time for Martha (Lisa Vicari) to take on some of the some iconography that in previous seasons was associated with Jonas (Louis Hofmann), that exchange between the two main characters made for a moment that forced them and series co-creators Jantje Friese and Baran bo Odar to recalibrate a little. And yes, Martha and Jonas, thats the big centerpiece of it all.. It felt like unified Europe was slowly breaking apart, like every country was doing its own thing. You know if something is urgent or not important. Proceed with caution. Andreas Pietschmann plays Captain Eye Larsen in 1899. [Note: The following interview discusses Season 3 of the Netflix series Dark.]. And they love that show! Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. Most people dont understand, that, because theyve never used it. bo Odar: It was a bit tricky at the beginning. Narratives or stories are always about human behavior and human connection. And also why would they like weird German-language things? Whats the fundament of it all? bo Odar:When we spoke to the guys behindThe Mandalorian, we asked them what worked and what was really complicated. So it was obviously challenging and not possible to do it in a traditional way. We were doing research for something completely different, I actually dont even remember what the research was for. It would have felt like selling our souls and not delivering on what we wanted to do [if we had more seasons]. How did the script work did you write in German and then have things translated? The thriller follows a forensics agent desperate for answers after finding out shes an identical triplet. Jantje Friese: We wanted to introduce the parallel world in the second season. With all that in mind, they set out to make 1899, which follows the multicultural passengers of a migrant steamship heading west to leave the old continent, whose journey takes an unexpected turn when they discover another migrant ship adrift on the open sea. Friese says she was bothered by this for the first few months actively working on the scripts for 1899, but, "At some point, we just said, 'Let's shake it off.' That's what we tried to do. Sometimes on set, the actors would deliver a really great performance, but they used the wrong hand. Make sure to check outEW's Fall TV Preview cover story as well as all of our2022 Fall TV Preview content, releasing over 22 days through Sept. 29. So it is truly a beast of its own, but shares a lot of the same maybe mechanisms as Dark does. Jantje Friese (born 1977) is a German film producer and screenwriter known for co-creating the Netflix series Dark (2017-2020) and 1899 (2022) with her creative and romantic partner Baran bo Odar. bo Odar:Thats a message to Final Draft: Work on that script notes function. The Film Industry Lost Some Titans This Year What Happens Now? (!!!!). And. That was the thing Claudia wanted to achieve. It was such an interesting time, that, unfortunately, was the build-up for a lot of terrible things that happened afterwards: With the First World War and then the Second World War, as people entered a new century, there was a lot of hope, but also a lot of fear, regarding new ideas and older ideas the old world versus the new world. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. Get a behind-the-scenes look at the new mystery-thriller series. When we started with the show, obviously we werent sure whether we were going to get any audience because its just such an unusual narrative, said Friese. Stuff like that always happens. Is that aMatrixreference? I put a lot of thought into it: What kind of information and when do you explain certain rules? Did the worldwide success and fan response toDarkchange how you went about making1899? But the people creating the show needed more elaborate tracking methods. Interview edited and condensed for clarity. We could create a huge dining room only with the volume tech. Others will take more time because they might think its about the Bermuda Triangle or whatever. So, in moving forward, lets assume you have watched all of Dark. Season 3 picks up almost immediate with what happened in the last moments of the second season finale, after a character named Adam (who is purportedly a much older version of Jonas) shoots Martha, Jonas' love interest (and, as he learns, also his aunt), and a Martha doppelgnger suddenly arrives, a la Doc Brown at the end of Back to the Future, to whisk him away. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. Those visual changes are built on the foundation of a braided narrative that stretches out across all three seasons of Dark. Ideas planted early in the series run return as the show moves toward its poignant ending. The success of that show enabled Odar and Friese to tell the story they wanted to tell over three mind-boggling seasons, and also provided a bit of a blessing and a curse when it came time to work on 1899. That was the big question. "If you don't look at the narrative chronologically, but you pick out single characters and just look at their character arcs, it becomes a lot easier," Friese said. While the closing chapter features answers to some of those questions, the episode before that is the one that holds the key to more than a few loose ends that have been lingering for fans of the show. Friese: It was absolutely the perfect amount. Well send you our daily roundup of all our favorite stories from across the site, from travel to food to shopping to entertainment.
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