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It was quite obvious that the original blue writing was overwritten with black ink. Following the receipt of a completed application as well as criminal & mental hygiene record checks, the approval or denial of a permit is the decision of the Erie County Supreme Court Justice who serves as the Licensing Officer. During normal times though I think it's possible to get an unrestricted permit from any upstate county. 4 0 obj
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Orleans issued unrestricted right off the bat. Starting September 1st 2022, NY State has implemented the new CCIA law. I'm about to turn in my pistol permit application and from what I can tell, the current judge is more than willing to give an unrestricted permit if you can show that you have experience with firearms and have a legit reason to carry concealed. 0\%c~+QAufpl eYbB%A 1;dpXYs_AjG%M%(_p_gF*R0lulMVaxBYp>nZ$Kv$f,wg!'0)biWOHFq`2_.A=N=Js5#C`x|!Y%Kx>%{CwNbx:%- xLJa\,zJ)dcVCeB&b\Na8[kE2`Z[|w) jpl_Co>"Lz fXw1f8)CSky4v%q_M+ Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. This would be convenient for me, however I know a judge will not care about what's convenient for a citizen. Click HERE for a list of counties accepting our ONLINE Pistol Safety Courses. and our Situation: I have retired as a Military Police Officer after 20 years, and have obtained my Hr 218/LEOSA Identification Card/Credential from the Department of The Army which identifies me as a Retired "Qualified DoD Law Enforcement Officer". It kinds still looks blue. One had a good reason, not something a typical person would have, another just said "because I want it" and got lucky. Haven't found the answer? Having said that, if you can use someone else you probably should. Do I Qualify As A Retired Law Enforcement Officer?. When living upstate would I have to write a letter to a judge asking for unrestricted? Sounds like it depends mostly on the judge you get than anything else. Upon receipt of my Pistol Permit, I plan to take additional firearm instruction and live-fire courses. I received mine this year. You do not have to wait any time period to request restrictions be removed. My question is Is there anything I can write in order to increase my chances of getting an unrestricted carry permit on my first go around rather than waiting three years of having a clean pistol permit? Any individual who seeks to obtain a concealed carry license for a pistol or revolver will be required to take the 16-hour classroom and 2-hour live-fire firearm safety training course. Anything else I'm missing? As for the 1.5 years for permit, they are getting a bit quicker, many of my customers are just under a year. 1 0 obj
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Finally got my last reference this past week-- now time to submit! The satellite office will be open Wednesdays from 9:00AM- 1:00PM and 2:00PM- 5:00PM. All you can really do is submit it and see what happens. Location. Ok. Fled the People's Republic of New York Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. I am a Paramedic for xcompanyx and frequently transport unstable psychiatric patients (often involuntarily- NYS 9.41/9.45) who may be angry with the outcome of their treatment. I've read many threads on this site, and it's still unsure where Erie County's huge delay is really stemming from. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I know somebody who has one, and I've seen it firsthand. Onondaga County could go either way, but I think they are starting to lean towards unrestricted. ERIE COUNTY UPGRADE CLASS/ ERIE COUNTY UNRESTRICTED PISTOL PERMIT If you are looking to get restrictions removed from your Erie County Hunting/Target or Business restricted NY Pistol Permit: Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the answer. I submitted the application anyway and received my license, many months later, with no problems. <>
I submitted my application in the middle of July for unrestricted/ target hunting. Unless there is something in your background that wouldn't necessarily stop you from getting a permit but something that makes them nervous. Accessibility, (new applicants will automatically be enrolled), Registering\Deleting\Changes\Transfers\Deaths\Lost or Stolen Permits, Instructions to self-certify as a Duly Authorized Instructor in Erie County, https://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/pprecert, Pistol Permit Reissue (Plastic cards: Lost/Stolen, Poor Condition). Sucks, but getting better. All do but the distance the State shoves its fist up our ass will vary. My firearms are always locked in a safe, with trigger or action locks, separate from my ammunition. Quick steps to complete and eSign Pistol permit application erie county online: Use Get Form or simply click on the template preview to open it in the editor. 7W%LY)&kb8v TA20"n>X,+>=o]^\(+pAh(Xq,TnhB7xiEoe QU(T,L GZ)lf^H$TK 1 0 obj
Total turn around time of 14 weeks exactly. Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits, Buffalo Office:92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm, Elma Town Hall:Wednesdays 9:00am -1:00pm and 2:00pm -5:00pm (Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1pm-2pm). 9. Firearms Instructors are required to self-certify in Erie County that they are a Duly Authorized Instructor pursuant to New York State Penal Law section 265.00(19) and that the course curriculum for the NYS Concealed Carry Firearm Safety Training they offer meets the requirements of New York State Penal Law section 400.00(19). Right now, no counties are issuing any kind of permit or amendment. I tried getting myself a fully carry but my licensing officer pretty much told me to go fuck myself and that no one get one its only restricted they permit. http://www2.erie.gov/clerk/sites/www2.erie.gov.clerk/files/uploads/pdfs/Upgrade_form.pdf, Handgun Maintenance, Cleaning and Gunsmithing. My wife and I applied for unrestricted NYS pistol permits back in august of 09. For more information, please see our A friend of mine used basically this same reason and got unrestricted off the bat. A change of address requires the permit holder to notify the Pistol Permit Department within 10 days of the change. You will be given a duplicate information form to be filled out at our office when you come in. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I submitted my paperwork on 7/13. I may be going against the grain here (FTWNY did mention he knew this reason worked in the past, which is encouraging in the OP's case), but I would leave out any details of patient retaliation and other job-related hazards that are an issue while you're off-duty, etc. You should use your legal address, this is the address that you have your DL under. Jim was a big help in getting the unrestricted first time out. : Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety class is exactly what you are looking for. I have thoroughly read and understand Article 35 of the NYS Penal Law. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The reason clearly states that it is for carry while off duty. I'll use the Buffalo address and pray that the BPD doesn't take their sweet ol time processing the interview/references. Vouchers do not expire and can be transferred to anyone. (once referred to as a pistol permit class or handgun safety class). Do you notify the front desk person at a hotel that you have a CCW Permit. I'm in Cheektowaga. Mostly what I hear is having to apply for an amendment in a year or two to get unrestricted, usually after taking the concealed carry course. You must fill out the County PPA-4R (Rev 9/22) application You must fill out the State PPB-3 (Rev 8/22) application. As for the 1.5 years for permit, they are getting a bit quicker, many of my customers are just under a year. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. That's what I did and had no issues. Instructions to self-certify as a Duly Authorized Instructor in Erie County. Im a firm believer in deescalating situations verbally or simply retreating. Use the Cross or Check marks in the top toolbar to select your answers in the list boxes. Click on the link below for the required Forms & Instructions to apply for your Pistol Permit. > x5\g Pistol Permit Application and Forms. To me, that sounds reasonable, and Boller is supposed to be a reasonable guy (he's a shooter and a supporter of 2A - his reasons for issuing restricted to start in most cases are more that it's his name on the permit as well as yours than any kind of "gun control"). If anyone knows where I can find . This will be required for concealed carry licenses issued on or after September 1, 2022. What I believe they are concerned with is are you a responsible citizen? 2 0 obj
For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Erie County Clerk's Office processes Pistol Permits for Erie County residents under terms of applicable New York State law. Update for my erie county pistol permit applicant friends i was called by the p.p. +pr'8/yXOu+RJe"x0'&G*QG3B?!}q&/"&:
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Thought this might be helpful since Ive seen a lot of users recently asking about what to put in their just cause letter when applying for their pistol permit. Good luck. I applied and it was upgraded in 2 months. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. You are using an out of date browser. stream
New tot this forum. lost pistol permit pistol permit stolen. I am currently filling out my paper work for my pistol permit in NY. You must log in or register to reply here. If you applied for an unrestricted pistol permit and you only received Target/Hunting or Business and the Judge advised you that you need to take additional training from a qualified instructor to remove restrictions, then our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the training the Judge is referring to. The last person filled out the state application in blue pen after i handed them my black pen-- then went over it in black after i noticed it. Every New York permit is a concealed carry permit. There have also been instances where a patient has a less than favorable outcome and the family blames me for that outcome. 3 0 obj
Hoping to get some information from this sub. And if so would my military background and firearm courses qualify for unrestricted? . The problem with that migh be if he asks what you company's policy is about carrying and if it is pro 2a or anti. Nearly everyone I know that put their paperwork in around the same time received unrestricted. The address doesnt list what floor the pistol permit office is on, anyone know which one it is please? Im an upstanding citizen in the community with high moral and ethical character, as well as a dedicated family man to my wife and XX children. I got my letter today. Disabled American Veteran, I Bled for my Country Well, I never got to submit my permit because I couldnt find 4 references in my town. For example, you can be approved for your permit, take this class and get restrictions removed right away without waiting a year or 5 years like you may have been told. I had my interview approximately 2 months later. Erie County, NY- Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns announced the re-opening of the Erie County Pistol Department inside Elma Town Hall located at 1600 Bowen Road beginning March 16th. JavaScript is disabled. Training and Consulting, LLC, Eight-Hour Pre-Assignment Training Course, Annual Eight Hour Firearms Training Course. When asked my licensing officer and a county judge that I work with they said that theres only about 4-9 currently unrestricted licenses at the moment in the whole county, most of them are judges, attorneys and one dude has a legit unrestricted license because his life was being threatened and have all the paperwork to back it up and I best believe he shoots competition. Some say the PD, some say the clerk's office, others say the judge, so who the Hell knows. stream
Firearm safety was instilled in me from an early age. At the time we had had our target and hunting permits for five years. Erie County Clerk's Office PISTOL PERMIT DEPARTMENT 92 FRANKLIN STREET BUFFALO, NEW YORK 14202 (716) 858-8785 Option #3 C OUNTY OF E RIE MICHAEL P. KEARNS Erie County Clerk UPGRADE AFFIDAVIT - PPU REQUEST FOR PERSONAL and/or BUSINESS PROTECTION ON PISTOL PERMIT Country of Birth Employer D STATE OF NEW YORK SUPREME COURT: County of Erie Full Name I guess lawful defense of one's own life isn't a valid reason in Erie Countythe OP saves lives for a living, but when it comes to saving his own, the County takes issue with that. You must be a legal citizen of the United States of America. Reaction score. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! New Pistol Permit Application Process Applicant Requirements You must be at least 21 years of age and a resident of Erie County. Though seldom, Suffolk does issue unrestricted. Thanks for your help and advice in advance. I would suggest though if you haven't had any formal training that you get some because its good to have. I just moved here, so all of my friends live outside of cheektowaga. The voucher is yours to use until you get your certificate from us. endobj
It took me so long to get all my references together that one moved before I handed in the app. During normal times though I think it's possible to get an unrestricted permit from any upstate county. Pistol permit recertifications are mandatory pursuant to the New York State SAFE Act, and are administered by the New York State Police, NOT the Erie County Clerk. Otherwise your question is trollish Im thinking about moving upstate Im not sure which county yet but I can say Im leaning more into Orange County. I got my letter today. People have used in-laws before or cousins and it has worked, but we would advise against it. We were told it would take about four months to get the decision. Please return the completed form to:New York State PolicePistol Permit BureauBuilding 221220 Washington AvenueAlbany, New York 12226-2252, *Please Do Not Send Cash in the Mail (Check or Money Order only), Erie County Clerk's Office 92 Franklin StreetBuffalo, New York 14202, ERIE.GOV Hey all, just wanted to give an update on the wait times for Erie County's Pistol Permit wait time: Delivered - December 16, 2020 . This is the new 16 hour class, (Also called the 16+2 class or 18 hour class), that NY State now requires all NY State residents take to apply for a NY State Concealed Carry license. They do not take pictures or fingerprint at the pistol permit office. Looks good to me. Sounds reasonable to me. I had my interview approximately 2 months later. MowKh1l-f+T%V)RfCr 0%hWHlmf+X5HuddJ+x;6]oV,N[mM
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I would really like an unrestricted/concealed carry permit but know the likelihood is slim. Otsego County is unrestricted. Erie County Clerk Helpdesk :help desk software by Jitbit. 1. Welcome to the New Erie County Clerk Help Desk! If you can show proof of training and tactfully summarize your need for CCW as being for lawful purposes only (without getting into too much detail), it may be better than unleashing specific details about your job situation. "No person related to you now or ever" is the exact line they use. Come on up to Orange. <>>>
Gun safety is a number one priority for me and my family. So you would use your Buffalo address to apply. Privacy Policy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Born and raised in NY but relocated to the midwest (MN) for a year, where I obtained my concealed carry permit. I live in the town that I work in and have a high risk of being recognized in public by these patients or family members while off duty. EB8,]9aO c,j^8 This is what I was told. You will use your current address for the application. They take the pics and do the fingerprinting down there, correct? ;{df
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T(fu;Vk!k YXXMz#9:{u`>$$.L3(@fD %S(E]5i00N$K`uT`'@K* N`0`^.AaA! We continue to hunt and target shoot on a regular basis. Oct 22, 2013. I recently moved back to Southern NY (have my pistol stored in PA) and am looking into obtaining my NY pistol permit. We own a cabin and property in [region of NY]. Do you have any firearms training? Im an avid outdoors man, I grew up hunting and target shooting with my father. You'll get a more direct and helpful response by asking exactly what county you reside in and will apply. Total turn around time of 14 weeks exactly. I think it means immediate but if its that far off I don't see them going that far to check. He may simply see you as high risk, as someone potentially "more inclined than the average Joe" for taking the Law into your own hands and getting yourself into trouble. JavaScript is disabled. However, the County Clerk's Office would be happy to assist: You may go to the NYS Police website athttps://firearms.troopers.ny.gov/pprecert and complete the online recertification or you may print the form and mail it to the NYS Police. I have prior knowledge that this reason has worked in the past. | . If you are looking to get restrictions removed from your Erie County Hunting/Target or Business restricted NY Pistol Permit: Our Advanced Handgun Firearm Safety Course (concealed carry class) is the answer. I ran into one of your coworkers at the permit office if this is who I think it is. Do they mean relatives by blood, or relatives by any connection whatsoever (great uncle-in-law for example)? Greetings from a newly UNRESTRICTED Erie county permit holder. Erie county has actually been pretty good about unrestricted off the bat the last few years from what I saw. He will upgrade a permit after a few years or if you take a class, but you need a good reason to get one from the start. x]ko a~w,q\b)-_ZGrey}{$E3b[M +yxxn$Wb~{3?"~}4l:~xGXzgYf
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Well, my lazy ass has gotten the application finished up and ready to go, heading out to get the app notarized and then heading downtown to drop it off tomorrow. I feel my request for an unrestricted carry license is warranted. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. To put that number in perspective, New York State Police data suggests Erie County has the second highest compliance. %PDF-1.7
In the application it asks for a reason why I would require an unrestricted/concealed carry permit. I have taken the Firearms Safety course twice, both times taught by a New York State and NRA licensed instructor. I will sell you my house AND give you a reference for your permit. if not then I would suggest that you dont say you will get any. See the left hand side. My pistol permit has the following restrictions: Security, Target and Hunting, Business Protection, Home Protection. Its against company policy to carry on duty. stop at a walgreens and get passport photos taken. Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm Elma Town Hall : Wednesdays 9:00am -1:00pm and 2:00pm -5:00pm ( Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1pm-2pm ) New Applicants The restrictions are pretty vague. Form Needed. He will upgrade a permit after a few years or if you take a class, but you need a good reason to get one from the start. Im looking to get some opinions as to how my "reason" sounds for an unrestricted permit. Agree with the training recommendation. Even Albany county, which is probably one of the most anti . From day one, I was taught how to safely handle and properly maintain a firearm. Just a general "self defense" or "personal protection" isn't good enough with the sitting judge. Ve-qW^?`vwF#5b;Qc`M[ChHE8e\7S6g\nGS4yK)c}FyDj"Qd}Tn>tU;X2&q;@m!a]NmS\0xuE"VY)USCW8"W
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I put my application in 9/6/12 and had my interview about 12 months after that. I submitted my paperwork on 7/13. Its important to understand the process, removing restrictions is up to the licensing officer, the Judge. - Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns . You may send a written notification or come to our office in person with your permit to effect the change. <>/XObject<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
Even Albany county, which is probably one of the most anti gun counties in upstate, has been known to issue unrestricted. x]oFn ".bfCE6q(B#yes/RnoXyy3i/7%D=o>,p,
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I am xx years old and have been a resident of Erie County for xx years; having lived in XX,XX briefly from 20XX-20XX for a job after completing my Bachelors Degree at XX College. I told the judge about property in a drug infested area, my military experience (I had a weapons specialty), and over a decade with a target permit. You must log in or register to reply here. Probably easier to list the ones that dont. I wish to upgrade my permit to a license to have and carry concealed without restriction. Since every NY permit is concealed, that means you can conceal it on your person at all times. New York Gun Permit Requirements. I just took a look at their website for the location of the office, but they also mention they do pics too for $10. JavaScript is disabled. X?p@"v. Re-Certification Tuesday, June 21, 2022 pistol permit recertificattion. and our Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns Pistol Permits Pistol Permits Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00 am - 5:00 pm Elma Town Hall : Wednesdays 9:00 am - 5:00 pm ( Plastic Permit Holders Only, Payment with Credit Card Only & Closed 1-2 for lunch ) New Applicants My name is [first/last name]. If you want to cancel and ask for a refund (it must be done more than 48 hours . they will explain the fingerprinting process to you at the permit office. I am from West Seneca. ERIE COUNTY UPGRADE CLASS/ ERIE COUNTY UNRESTRICTED PISTOL PERMIT. EMAIL: info@onlinegunsafetycourse.com In order to apply for a pistol permit in Erie County, you must be 21 years of age and be a resident of Erie County. We will sign you up for a duplicate when you appear at the Pistol Permit Department with a list of your guns which includes the make, caliber and serial number of each gun. That means only 31 percent of pistol permit holders are following the law. Good to hear that they're getting quicker. Erie County requires a "specific need" to be issued an unrestricted permit right off the bat. Erie County requires a "specific need" to be issued an unrestricted permit right off the bat.
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