You had a variety of body shapes on discovery Tilly was thick. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). It was a good perspective in S1, and lines up with Star Trek values. They seemed to only be limited by what that particular script called for that week. Stupid decision to bring her back. Discovery may have just said goodbye to one of its crew, but don't worry: She'll be back. Try the Daily Mail for 5 minutes. Somewhere in the bowels of Secret Hideout, they invented a computer program that can cobble together scripts that fit various parameters. I never felt that what has come before should define the franchise in the future. Shaming is one thing. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. David Ajala: I think its made Cleveland Booker even more attracted to Michael Burnham because I think he looks and goes Oh, scrumptious. Would a woman watching this aspire to be a Tilly or aspire to be a Dax, Kira or Janeway? It is also available on Netflix in 190 countries around the world. But one could argue a ship full of Barclays is not the most convincing portrait of humanity. Tilly looks great and her weight is a not a issue. Shes loved. And I just really love having Janeway back. Ridiculous or not, it has been well established in Trek canon that starships have counselors/therapists, and they are often used by the crew. Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. The Delta Quadrant is a dangerous place, and the remnants of species and societies that survived around the edges of the Borg network and incursions were harsh and justifiably skeptical of the Federations. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building. Body shaming is wrong and immature. Right!? To even suggest that is stupidity writ large. It just really doesnt fit in this show however. I just wonder if maybe they are adapting the basic idea to what we are seeing in Prodigy since the Protostar couldve been part of the Full Circle program and was sent back to the DQ for a specific mission? It is incredibly bad and is a publicly dangerous message to be sending. "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? Mary Wiseman as Tilly in episode 402, Anomaly. I think theres room for it. Shes a little overweighed, so what? Her character of Cadet Tilly in Star Trek Discovery is warm and positive. Xanadu? I also know hes basically your favorite Trek author. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. I did, though. Wiseman would be smart to ignore the haters because their posts are rooted in negativity and hate. So when very capable people feel un-capable, crazy things happen. No probably not. Im proud to see that shes proud of herself. I have to agree. She is a real girl. Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all. No spoilers in case I ever decide to actually the write the thing, but youd love it as a DS9 fan. A rare, successful example of this is James Gunns Guardians otG and Suicide Squad, in which a similar premise is treated comedically yet with a touch of sincerity, so as not to devolve into outright farce. It took this for me to finally accept who I am. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Even though she's still in the final season of Starfleet Aacademy studies She was assigned to the USS Discovery to get some practical experience. Shes a geeky, nerdy character, so wonderfully over the top, like so many of us in the fandom. Except that would imply that her being there was the exception rather than the rule. You either think about what you can contribute to society or how society owes you handouts, respect for above-mentioned bad habits, fictitious pronouns even. I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. You two are Michaels boyfriend and best friend, so does Michael becoming captain create any new tension in season four? She's interviewed several Star Trek . A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. I found him quite annoying, myself. Unless you want to count Ezri Dax she was a therapist but I dont believe she heald a high ranking command position. And how and how would your abilities be used in the Mirror Universe? I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. In every real-life Trekkie community Im a part of, as well as most online, shes loved. Not with DSC, not with ANYTHING. And more importantly, were back to exploring both the prime universe and 24th century again we havent done since Voyagers final season, which was 20 years ago this year! The message she is sending how? (80's for ya) I think criticism of the actors is wrong as well, its not about the actors its what they have been told deliver. out of shape for the job shes in and the role she wanted to perform. The Berman era had specific ideas about things like accents and music that kind of locked it into something fairly homogeneous. Eh, only in some particular parts of the internet. And yeah the Full Circle stories do sound a bit depressing especially since SPOILER ALERT they kill off Janeway in them! Hopefully its . David Ajala: Ive never thought about that. I suspect that Prodigy may use some of the elements that Beyer expanded or created for Full Circle without actually developing any of the overall story arc. Miss Wiseman F those fake Trekkies/Treksters keep acting your ass off. I think the CW has been using something like this for years. Whereas Tilly is an oh shes just like me and validates all my insecurities so its ok to be as I am. Just mentioning few of their values. Agreed. And it was mentioned in one of the episodes of the first season, I dont remember whichwould have to research, that councilors on Galaxy class ships due to the fact that families were on the ship and it was meant for longer than 5 year missions. Heck I think it was more unrealistic when some chick was upset he wasn't ready for sex. For me, generally speaking, when Barclay or Trois mom appeared it signaled a terrible episode in advance. And doesnt that just make the point about the difference between fitness and apparent chunkiness or curveyness. However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! So it has been hard, and its really hard to avoid, because it pops up on all the [social media] accounts, or people comment on my posts with cruel, unscientific comments. Star Trek is supposed to be socially progressive but this show went too far. It included a lot of the old characters too like Chakotay, BElanna, Tuvok with a lot of new characters. Too nervous and anxious. Jury still out on Books character.definitely ahead of the 2 dimensional bridge crew though. Watch as SFX makeup transforms Doug Jones into Saru for Star Trek: Discovery. Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. While not getting specific about if or where we will see Tilly again, Wiseman also hinted the finale was not the end of her story: Tilly is not somebody who lets people leave her life. Did Tilly on Discovery gain weight? But then again Im not a troll. The show had its official opening on Monday, March 21st, and is currently set to run through April 24. Actually, the production team is not helping either. However, if we got to see Tilly gradually improve herself. Although the last TNG with Trois mom wasnt terrible. David Ajala: The first thing that comes to mind, is maybe hes a borderline narcissist, vry egotistical, and self-absorbed. Agree. Its all pretty subjective. Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. Actress Mary Wiseman did a series of media . And saying they should be sending this message is just another way to try to bully someone into doing what you want, not what that person wants for their self. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. It has also been speculated that Wiseman may be moving over to the proposed Starfleet Academy show openly discussed by Alex Kurtzman and Paramount+ execs but not yet officially ordered as a series. Come on she looks great. Even Picard has his own show. Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. Mary Wiseman and David Ajala with their co-stars Wilson Cruz, Sonequa Martin-Green, Blu del Barrio, and Anthony Rapp at NYCC 2021, (Trailer also available for international viewers onInstagramandstartrek.com). In general, the Litverse kicks off with the TNG A Time to series that fills in events between the movies Insurrection and Nemesis. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. ..I have a total girl crush. I didnt like Reed from Enterprise, does that make me a troll? I'm finding Star Trek Discovery to be incredibly dull and childish. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. I echo your sentiments exactly, David. Contents 1 Early life 2 Starfleet career 2.1 USS Discovery 2.1.1 The war 2.1.2 Post-war 2.1.3 32nd century 3 Personal relationships 3.1 Friendships Understanding? MS Wiseman owns the sadistic Bitch Capt Killy like she does Tilly. That said, I know people can be cruel and I am even worried bringing up this topic for fear of the idiot fringe piling on, but I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. Tons do, yes. I keep reading that no character like hers should not be in starfleet, yet she is. Everyone in the world do not look and act the same if it was for me, it would be a very boring uninterested world. Paradise was most likely referring to the shows production and creative teams. Tilly (Mary Wiseman) leads the stranded Starfleet cadets to safety. Hopefully next season they will be given more development. Given all the trouble the crew got into, Im sure they needed one on the ship. And for your own gain, right? 89. I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. Just more pandering. The Trek Collective has a flowchart for the Litverse which is helpful. In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? Mary Wiseman said in an interview after her departing episode that she'd be back before the end of the season. Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. Maybe Saru wont be on the ship as much but Im guessing they are going the same direction. It was the fall of 2017 and my non-Trekkie wife, Lisa, had begrudgingly agreed to watch Star Trek: Discovery with me, having heard me talk nonstop about how excited I was for Trek's return to TV.We were on the third episode, "Context is for Kings," when she appeared. but it looks like she did simply did it because she was her friend and room mate. The only thing she is qualified for at Starfleet Academy is as a 23rd century specialist. Im sorry if the idea of someone not like Discovery upsets you, but its unreasonable to expect people to change their minds for that reason. Tillys great contribution is that shes NOT that sort of superwoman most people can never be. Ive read plenty of well-deserved criticism of the writing but to my knowledge, there has been no widespread criticism of STD acting or physical appearances. I feel bad saying this but Ive never a read a Star Trek novel in my life lol. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Ok, SH didnt invent this. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. Shes responsible for her subordinates and to lead by example. (But then she has always reminded me, her looks and bubbliness, of my cousin who just so happens to be a wonderful teacher. The ships shrink should not be a Command level position and in fact would make sense to be on the CMOs staff. Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. Mary Wiseman. Correct me if I am wrong, but did she not have to take a command course at some point? Heaven forefend women feel good about themselves! That will be the one I read first! DS9 Avatar books 1 and 2 were quite good and helpfully kicked off the DS9 Relaunch sequence. His Voyager appearances were also horrid. (Hey, Im likely one of the oldest people here, and its too easy/lazy to remain stuck in the 1960s and 70s! Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Btw have you come across any good DS9 books about what happened to Sisko or the rest of the crew after the finale? Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. Tilly is justannoying. I think you are talking jibberish. None of those thinks make a lick of sense. By: Laurie Ulster She went away and supposedly became an amazing well rounded person. Theyve written Tilly as just the straight oh theres Tilly for the jokes. I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. The doctor was usually the therapist. I even got a t-shirt that says DISCO on it, which prompts inquiries about my musical tastes of past decades when I was a twenty-something, lol. I think that in a world thats so repressed and violent, violence becomes these peoples only outlet for pleasure and release. Between 2011 through 2015, she attended Juilliard School's Drama Division, where one of her students was future Star Trek: Discovery actress Mary Chieffo. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. Sometimes it worked over amazing distances other times not. After his first episode or two, I was done with Barclay and was frustrated when he came back, and especially when he showed up on Voyager. Please back up your statement. Finally, actress Rekha Sharma shared this fun behind-the-scenes photo with Doug Jones and David Benjamin Tomlinson, where she lamented Landry being killed off yet again. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. each series has traditionally had someone that acts as a way to explore the inner humanityie spock, data, odo, doc/seven. Its a tricky one, as someone who is outside America and didnt have English as the first language growing up its more noticeable. Its been a continuing book series since 2009 and still going. I have only heard of the details a few months ago thanks to a video that TrekCentral (amazing YouTube channel) made about it for Prodigy theorizing a connection. Just a heads up (even more way off topic), for those who liked SG , IMO the Atlantis book Legacy series was quite good, telling the story of what happened after the finale. And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. Youve got to hand it to Harry Kim. I will have to go check it out. Nibiru? I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Every woman is very beautiful. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Just blows my mind. [laughs] Everybody loves Tilly. Yes, The Expanse. Star Trek: Discovery threw a shocker into its latest episode as Lieutenant Sylvia Tilly decided to leave the Discovery crew. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. Its really just certain comments sections and Facebook garbage holes. Mary Wiseman claims that she wants to inspire all the curvy women around the world with her Star Trek weight gain story. Have you ever read those? That was why she was never in uniform the first few seasons. And yeah, some of us are coach potatoes, most of us certainly not gold cut supermodels. Not sure what the formal CBS/Paramount process is for publishing that kind of stuff, but the story was so detailed that I genuinely wanted to begin looking into it. If that happens, I'm betting she'll be a part of it. Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 May Be Coming Soon, According To Wilson Cruz [UPDATED], Podcast: All Access Scans For All The Latest Star Trek Universe News, Star Trek Lower Decks Nominated For Annie Award; Discovery For NAACP And GLAAD Awards, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/97519/all-access-picard-episode-303-seventeen-seconds-review-discovery-ending-future-of-star-trek-discussion.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/97356/shuttle-pod-113-star-trek-picard-season-3-chat-on-the-next-generation-disengage.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/97216/all-access-review-of-star-trek-picard-episode-302-disengage.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/96813/all-access-review-of-star-trek-picard-episode-301-the-next-generation.mp3, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/trekmovie.com/podcast-player/96521/all-access-suplimental-john-billingsley-interview.mp3. You always come up with weird posts VS this one is weirder than usual Im afraid to say. She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). Im mostly just curious if Tillys removal from Disco came from Wiseman looking to do other projects or if they wrote it in and broke the news that she was getting cut as a regular. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. I assume my feelings towards them are what Wesley-haters endure. As far as science fiction most Trek shows have normal looking ppl. That could explain the weight gain. As for the debate about sending the message being overweight is good: the heart of the issue is that everybodys body is their own, not health and physical fitness. The last novel just came out last year (where does she find the time lol). Mary Wiseman: Well what is like the same root of Book but like the polar opposite expression of it? I know most dont share my opinon that after a terrible first half of S1, I have generally liked Discovery but making Tilly first officer was quite possibly the most ridiculous plot twist in the history of Trek. Lets stick with the science and not target individuals. Thats a crumpet I want to butter. [laughter], David Ajala as Book and Sonequa Martin-Green as Michael in episode 401 Kobayashi Maru. I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. I do find their quirks annoying at times, but the most important reason I like them is because theyre honest, kind people with a good heart. And I know Chakotay was also Captain on Voyager in those books as well. So many reasons to be critical of Disco plot holes, awful sense of morals, missed opportunities, etc. Ive seen fan-fics with better characters than this. Mary Wiseman (born July 30, 1985) is an American actress. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. Release date: Star Trek Discovery season 4 will release on November 18 in the US. I am a therapist in real life, and even *I* think it was crazy that they had a therapist on the bridge.
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