Ideally Ill wait until reaching final drying but sometimes I need to use wood before that point. hj0Ed=h].J-)_q},jR3$\ eH"wCk)E)J8 Its hard to gauge anything off of a cheapo meter, but if and I mean if, we were to assume it was reading effectively, the numbers are too high. (As a percentage) Basically the chimney breast (in bedroom and downstairs room) has been measured with a digital moisture meter and states 'OL' on the display, the surrounding walls measure between 0.4% and 1.2%. Accuaracy is of course more important.. Very educational! You must be careful with a thick slab once you cut it. I used my Wagner meter and it Measured in the 10% area. The chart below will clear things up. I not sure if this is normal, related to the re-shim or need to install a crawl space dehumidifier to slow the progression? Moisture content (MC) in raw slabs can take additional time to reach its Equilibrium Moisture Content. 1. Hi Moisture Experts, My house is 25 years old located in Oregon City OR (near Portland). : Mold & Fungus In the Crawlspace. Did the Contractor mention anything about the structural strength of the joists? We have industrial fans going 24/7 to try and dry out the room and also have a dehumidifier running, Ive had the heated floor running in hopes that it could help dry any of the wet wood directly below. Kiln-dried timber should be kept dry. Even with lower temperatures, the ideal range for wood keeps relative humidity between 55% and 75%. After you remove the old flooring, you'll need to ensure the subfloor is properly prepared before laying the new vinyl, hardwood or laminate flooring. We are shipping some acacia chopping board to colorado ( US) with moisture ranges from 10-14% while shipping from India but once product received all get cracked . Here is a link to our moisture meters, thermo-hygrometer, and Smart Logger. Using South Carolina Residential Construction Standards to Solve Problems, Website by Integritive Web Design :: Asheville, NC. . Down pour of rain onto underlayment of attached garage. Call JADE today for a crawlspace inspection and we can give you definitive answers to your crawl space problems! My plan is to make a wall-mounted headboard out of angle iron and these boards (boards will not be joined). P.O. We had boards that were also cracking/splitting and other places where small pinholes were showing up. This can lead to rising damp, dry rot, timber decay, fungal growth and borer. The engineered wood floor appears ok. Box 1437 Thanks. i cored out a small section of the bottom beam (3 inches wide) all the way down to the foundation. Thanks for the email. This should be stuck into your wooden subfloor. Moisture levels in your crawl space that go beyond 70% lead to mold growth and health concerns. Call 256-318-0982 or contact us today. The more specific way to know would be to measure the relative humidity and temperature in your homes air and then plug the numbers into a calculator like this https://www.spikevm.com/calculators/logging/equilibrium.php This will tell you what the MC% should be based on your specific environment. 2. I just bought a live edge slab of Cherry from a local sawmill that was kiln dried. Floor joists are generally 6, 8, 10, or 12 inches in width, with 8 or 10 inches as the most common sizes. Writing all the way from Australia, Steven. If your subfloor is a wood product, make sure the reading is less than 20% on the moisture meter. Condensation on the inside of a windowpane. I had a water leak under my crawl space which has 3 inches of foam insulation applied to the underside of the sub floor. Its still there and causing stains and scaring inexperienced home inspectors who frighten buyers, but its dormant. 7. I strongly recommend using a moisture meter, along with a thermo-hygrometer, or even a smart logger before you start building, to ensure the wood is at an optimal moisture content in an environment that has an acceptable relative humidity and temperature range. Step 1: Check the Floor. of the average flooring moisture content that is being laid). SE, Huntsville, AL 35802. While the surface of the floor might feel dry, there could be higher moisture inside. Since Im drying them outside, being in AK I would like to work with them if possible before the long moist winter. A termite repair company (also licensed contractors) told me that I needed to replace the planks on my second story deck. I hope this helps. Floors-1/2" in 12' or 3/16" in 4'. The plumbing was improperly installed with the wrong cement to fit the pipes and could have been leaking from anywhere between 5-29 years while absorbing into the ground. I have been testing the bottom stud/sill board of an exterior wall on a slab of an old house that exposed in order to put a floor in. During the summer, moisture content readings above . Where are you located? So, when looking at the relative humidity of the space, spaces left above 70% RH for extended periods will also promote mold growth. Waterproof membrane . If the conditions are too wet, dehumidify, and if they are too dry, humidify. Thanks for the question. I requested the treated lumber be brought in a few weeks prior to build, stickered and put under cover to acclimate and dry it. The conversion puts the adjusted MC between 9.5 -> 12%. Im on a grade-level concrete slab, and the water made its way over (under the tiles) to my sink vanity. I hope that helps. Use a level to determine if the floor is level within 3/16-inch change per 10 feet. Most of it will dissipate. The SG setting is on the card that comes with the meter. Phil, what are you making with the cedar, and in what type of environment will it be? If there are quite small amounts of moisture in a wall of dense plaster or brick, then a meter will probably indicate over 20% or so and this will be in the 'red zone' or beeps and squeeks may happen. I was thinking 10% MC would be ok but after reading your article Im not sure. I suggested replacing my dehumidifier (Sears brand, bucket collection) which has been inoperable this past year. Like all wood materials, I-joists are susceptible to moisture. Cheers, Howard Pruden in Edmonton, Alberta where its cold and dry. Its not growing or feeding on the wood. guide-standards-tolerances.pdf. I have built two table tops (douglas fir) that have both suffered major cracking in their final location. They are currently nearing equilibrium (around 12 MC) and are stored within the house. The home inspector failed to report all the sewage stains on the plastic and organic growth on some of the joists have which had been exposed to moisture the whole time even though the dehumidifier has been mitigating the plumbing leaks. With a concrete subfloor you should use a digital hygrometer, which needs to be left in place for at least 24 hours. Squeaks from subfloors The floor installer is often the 'first cab off the rank' when there is a squeaking floor and the problem may Because pinless meters scan the woods surface and cover a larger area than pin-type meters, they provide a more thorough picture of the woods moisture content. For wide-width solid flooring (3 or wider), there should be no more than a 2% difference in moisture content between properly acclimated wood flooring and subflooring materials. If so, then you'll want to know. Your email address will not be published. You should be able to tell where the water reached the subfloor because it will be discolored and may also be swelled up. Thank you for your very informative knowledge about all of the items on this page. The boards should be no wider than 6 inches and installed on a 45-degree angle. Doesnt sound like this has been a problem in the past. My question is microwaving twice turned bowls what would be the general rule of thumb for a target by weight. Under the floor. In their warehouse, and perhaps partly also in the container. The other question is what should the moisture content be on treated lumber that will be for the framing of the deck? Standard construction studs such as 24 and 26s are typically dried to 19% moisture content before they are installed. A study by Imamura and Kiguchi (1999) showed that wood moisture content in excess of 20% can cause a 5% loss of nail shank diameter in four years and a projected 25% loss in 30 years. There are joists that display splitting. ( 55 days transit by sea) What should be the moisture content while loading in Containers? Different joinery (currently using pocket holes)? The flooring pieces should be removed from the packaging to allow the ambient conditions to equalize the wood. Thats a big difference. This will drastically speed up the drying process. Here is the one I would recommend: https://www.wagnermeters.com/shop/mmc220-extended-range-moisture-meter/, My potential house in North Carolina Fayetteville area was just checked for moisture content in the crawl space. info@rlcengineering.com Damn those shop classes I didnt take. Two weeks is sufficient for softwood. 0 WM=8DBaHh10tIKR/OH}X5Kpt'_]4Mfg9@w8~ n$R
Substrates must be protected by: We are checking moisture levels in several areas each day. This chart highlights the ideal levels of moisture in wood at various temperatures and relative humidity (RH) levels: In this chart, you can see a small highlighted section. I checked it with my new moisture meter and had a reading of between 8-13.5%. My first question is how to determine the MC of eng wood flooring which composite of different species layer, face and different species to form plywood core. The moisture content of freshly cut wood is typically somewhere between 40-200%. Hi, in MN where extreme temperatures are very hard on homes. Stopping the moisture is much cheaper and easier than repairing the structure. Is this dry enough that Id be able to reinstall the trim over the particleboard? A company sealed off the foundation vents and removed all the insulation from the crawlspace with the humidifier mitigating the moisture from the leaks. The National Wood Flooring Association (NWFA) has a chart that indicates the moisture content of wood at any given combination of temperature and humidity. I would have thought that if the floor gave a 99.9% water saturation reading, it would have had to have been noticeably wet. Im trying to find specs on treated lumber for NC. An MC in this range, therefore, is considered sufficiently dry for exterior in-service wood. Thanks in advance for your input! Wood Moisture Content is the weight of water in a piece of wood expressed as a percentage of oven dry weight of wood. Does coating wood with oil stabilize the moisture content in wood? Good moisture content for softwoods is 10% to 14% moisture. 28% and above Readings in this range are often accompanied by decay damage. To establish a baseline for wood flooring acclimation, the installer will need to calculate the optimal moisture level of the wood by dividing the regions high season and low season EMC. Any suggestions .thanks. Condensation present on the . The levels were between 20 and 23%. Want this question answered? summary Wood must always be allowed to acclimate or come into balance with the RH of the end-use location. Thank you for sharing such valuable information. While oven-dry testing, if followed correctly, offers accurate results, there are a few drawbacks: These three drawbacks mean that oven-dry testing usually isnt the option of choice for hobbyists who work with wood. The Las Vegas EMC of wood or lumber ranges from 4.0% to 8.5%. A dehumidifier in the crawlspace will help but can be expensive. With a Wagner L606, I am getting MC readings 12%->15.5% . Above 90% RH or 20% WMC, mold can grow on the wood. The crawl space must be a minimum of 18" to the bottom of the floor joists, and the soil in the crawl space covered with a heavy duty plastic moisture barrier, and sealed at the seams. There are two main ways of measuring wood moisture content: oven-dry testing and moisture meter testing. Sometimes moving the air around is enough to remove moisture and dry surfaces. Decay fungi need liquid water to grow. This is expensive and its ridiculous. Percent moisture content in wood is the ratio of the weight of water compared to the overall weight of a piece of wood. This means the weight of the water exceeds the weight of the wood by itself. provide a good substrate for a wide range of wet area finishes. The subfloor registered from 12% to 17% . My question is regarding finishing. I think mine is +-3% Is it possible being near the door just means greater humidity and there isnt actually a leak? Thanks for the the information, very detailed and useful. This building was constructed around 1966 and this little space appears very dry, in spite of a recent leak from an nearby hot water tank. The boards have dried nicely so far with minimal warpage or checking. I live on the fl coast so what should the moisture level be? Moisture contents in wood floor joists in houses with moisture problems are exceeding the 20% maximum level for air dried lumber. Second, would the same pine slab, would it be okay to use for a side table or Kitchen island. 15% is too high, at least for hardwoods. I so appreciate your treatise on this issue. Do you have any recommendations on how to prevent mold from getting on the wood? Its mc is 11- 12% . I am not aware of a standard moisture content for packaging food or any other product. The ceiling in the bedroom above the chimney breast shows signs of damp however doesn't feel damp/moist. Walking on Joists Before all accessories and floor decking are installed, I-joists are unstable and can roll over if walked on, leading to injuries. Everyone who works with wood needs to understand how wood interacts with moisture in the environment. Im not sure which part of Europe you are from, but typically the Indonesian climate is very humid compared to other parts of the world. The water was there for at most 6 hours, then we vacuumed it all and started the process of drying. Would you be able to say anything about the optimal MC range for this specific situation? This summer I milled several 1.25 boards from a fir log that had been cut around 10 years ago. I would think at least fixing your dehumidifier is a must. You will want closer to 6% in the drier climates and 9% MC for the more humid climates. I-joists are comprised of top and bottom flanges, which resist bending, united with webs, which provide outstanding shear resistance. Headers, columns, and joists are rotting. Because wood shrinks and warps as it dries, woodworkers want it to be pre-shrunk before they use it. Pinless meters are non-penetrating and read the moisture content via a non-damaging electromagnetic sensor that scans the wood. If that is the case you need to remove the flooring and examine the subfloor. 3. In general, all wood products will swell with an increase in moisture content and shrink with a decrease in moisture content. Hello Brian, I am a moisture meter expert, not a woodworking expert but from your description, the problem points to the conditions, not the wood or joinery. I suspect the moisture was the culprit? This is for furniture-grade hardwoods. board will move twice as much as a 4-in. Some wood you buy from a lumber store can be higher than 14% but typically range between 12-14%. "Mold requires moisture to survive, so protecting lumber and wood structures from moisture will prevent mold growth. If the moisture is less than 20% and the floor joists are structurally sound, like the joists at this home, there is no need to worry about any fungal staining that might exist. I believe you are asking for the percent moisture content (humidity) of South African woods. Next, check the moisture of new floorboards. I would like to rip two slabs and glue them together to make a nice large dining room table. I have seen that 13.5% is high for furniture and you should aim below 12%. The wood and varnish appear otherwise pristine, uncracked and not bubbled or clouded in any way. I manufacture ice cream sticks and disposable wooden cutlery from European Baltic birch wood in India. I live in coastal South Carolina .we are definitely afraid of mold formation. What is a Proper Structural Engineering Inspection? Simple and regular maintenance can prevent serious problems developing. Were looking to replace the floor in an old (unheated) hay barn with treated tongue & Groove 26 flooring and need to know if the advertised 19% MC will be ok and not shrink too much. My house was built in 1927. A contractor is measuring sill plates by driving 2 SS Screws into the wood about 1-1/2 or so inches. However, the wood species and the thickness or size of the wood may also factor in. endstream
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I have Suar wood from Indonesia and want use to indoor furniture, how range the Moisture Content allowance for this wood. board will move 3 times the amount as a 4-in. Limit the length of notches to 1/3 of the joist's depth. They delivered the wood one day, and began to stain and install it over the next two days, finishing on the 6th day. The front of the . All that needs to be done at this home is to close-up the foundation vents during every air conditioning season and make sure the ground cover vapor barrier is spread completely over the underlying ground surface. They are returning to remove one plank and take it back to see what they can do to meet my satisfaction. Good luck. Mold and fungus in the crawl space can definitely become a problem, but dont be fooled into thinking that a Borate spray HAS to be applied in EVERY situation. Thanks. Do you think that heated floor actually help to dry or do they make things worse and more humid! primer, the moisture vapor transmissions rate (MVtr) from the substrate should not be in excess of 5 lbs. Your table may have been a little too high in moisture, hence the crack as it dried slightly in the drier environment. It is impossible for me to tell you what the percentage of furniture should be, but if you know the EMC in the area it will be kept, you can check the MC continuously until you reach its EMC. Working with some slabs of spruce. Hello Folks, I am new to wood turning and do not have a ready supply of dry/seasoned (my wood is green) wood. I want to use it to build a table and will be moving it to the location where I will work on it shortly. Since your subfloor may be concrete or wood, you should make sure you choose a meter that is specially designed for the specific element you are testing. Have I been wrong? Do you think its to early to start working with it.If so how many yrs will it take to get to proper mc so i can work with it. I live in upstate South Carolina. The difference is the moisture meters measurement error. For most areas of the United States, acceptable moisture levels of wood and lumber can be in the range of 9% to 14% for exterior wood or for building envelope components within constructed assemblies. I have a couple questions. My question for you is, now that it is stained, can I still get an accurate MC? Just across the threshold to a white oak floor installed in ~1914 and the MC is 15%->16%. Thanks!!! I have seen home built in the dead of winter, covered in snow, and still dry out enough for a successful home build. Normal moisture content of wood ranges from 7% to 19%. One note is that we did have some fungus growth in our crawlspace during the construction phase prior to the crawlspace being sealed and had the contractor come and spray and clean the floor joists and subflooring where applicable. Also, there is a risk of mold. How long will it take to get to the ideal moisture reading and is it better to be stored in a garage or inside a house? Typical moisture content for furniture in a home is 6-9%. The containers that we have received so far have arrived wet and mouldy. My question for you is: after a smallish unheated underground space (similar to a basement, i.e. Wood exposed to air with a RH of about 90% will reach a Wood Moisture Content of about 20%. Wood moisture content between 0% and about 28% is dependent upon the relative humidity (RH) of the air. They need to carry a moisture meter with them under houses and probe the floor joists to measure wood moisture content. Unless something is so out of whack shimming in back of the sheetrock won't suffice it's OK here. h_k0 r ?c|@+wpF=M^r? ( BzPxgA9P{j]s 3r\WQu\@U.Jy'h{>dccy. This means that wood intended for interior use in this location should not only be dried to around 6% but should be kept at this moisture content both before and during the manufacturing process. Thank you for the information, I use a lot of trimmed for for children toys, menu times I use rings of 1-3 inch in diameter, For these purposes I dont care for wood shrinkage or wraping, Two things are important for me that wood will not crack, and that mold wont develop. How Timber Reacts To Moisture. Great article, thanks for the info. Thank you. https://www.wagnermeters.com/wood-moisture-meters/. We are manufacturer of eng wood flooring. Generally the entire floor is dry. Required fields are marked *. Reaching these moisture content levels does not mean mold growth or corrosion . I really need to know as I am getting so many different opinions Thanks. This is the standard in the construction industry. Any opinions. Are the measurements of all wood the same? And would it be normal for the MC to vary from board-to-board and one end of a board to the other? i am baffled. Although some movement can be expected between 6% and 9%, wood flooring can shrink or swell more dramatically outside this range. meter readings of up to 2.0% and in-slab relative humidity (RH) below 75%. After all, the wall is in contact with damp soil. The thinner veneers wont have much bearing on the reading. There will be statistical outliers on both the low and the high end and youll want to catch these by using a quality moisture meter. Please help with T%, I have seen where 30% moisture loss by weight is a good rule of thumb to shoot for. For example, a 26 Southern Pine joist can span 12'. It is also possible to have moisture content readings over 100%. Yes, our moisture meters read MDF. Subsequently the woodgrain has reflected in the previously mirror-finish, only on the new panels and we suspect moisture content issues in the wood before it was varnished. Fungus loves wet wood. >V@Ica4R%f%l&/R*liDqx/nB*?1MH}Su>VeyZ3?>vMLqcwY^U. we had a problem with our shower curb. I dont know what to believe except the company who installed the vapor and dehumidifier said the vapor barrier needs to be changed out because of all the sewage and drainage stains after the plumbing is fixed. Be sure to acclimate the wood to desired EMC of the interior environment before you use it. Any thoughts as to what the issue was with the first install so we dont have the same issue again next year after we go through a new install? (EMC) than other pieces of wood, depending on its location. When you do this, you not only ensure that the entire batch is okay on average, but youre also far likelier to catch boards that are statistical outliers and could cause problems. (He didnt cite a figure.) What can we do to get the row products closer in moisture content, we are currently using fans, We are in northern lower Michigan I am the general contractor for the house, and want to avoid any problems, would love to talk to you on the phone, my number is 9894647248, Mark Skiba, This is a great site about moisture content. Kiln-dried wood usually shows a moisture reading of 10% on the outside and then 25% on the inside. This is more likely to occur to occur in lower-grade boards, where knots and uneven grains are already present. Not only did the aggressive notching doom this joist, it affected the structural integrity of the floor system above. The home inspectors working for fees today seem to have one primary motive in mind: to cover their liabilities. The typical moisture content for hardwoods that will be indoors is 6-9 percent. I took readings of the moisture of the sub floor at the edges of the wall and it ranged from 5 to 16, problem is i cant take it in the middle of the floor unless i rip the floor out. Its always a good idea to check with the manufacturer of the finish also. Standard moisture contents for hardwoods are 6% 9% MC. Interior walls non-insulated at around 7-8% mc. Ideally, it should be between 7% and 9%. As a general rule, with geographic exceptions, wood flooring performs best when the interior environment is controlled to stay within an RH range of 30% to 50% and a temperature range of 60 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
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